Just a Lousy Journalist?

Tony Cartalucci has written prolifically on the political turmoil in Thailand. His writing focuses on the International dimension; the foreign interference in Thailand. While there is no doubt that no nation is an island and foreign groups with their own agendas interfere in all nations for their own personal ends, Tony has been very selective in which foreign groups he writes on, what their intentions are and who they work with in Thailand. I write now to expose some of the glaring omissions he has purposefully made and encourage you to ask; What groups does this foreigner in Thailand belong to and what is his agenda?

I have been aware of his work for a year now. It started with the tragic events in Bangkok. Protesters were gunned down, soldiers died too, and foreign journalists, nurses and emergency workers were killed too, even delivery boys going about their business were gunned down. Tony, in his article 'Thailand's Thaksin Shinwatra, Marxists, and the NWO',  immediately highlighted the incontestable facts that the ousted Prime Minister Thaksin had worked with the Carlyle Group.

He writes of the protesters as 'ignorant', 'programmed' and 'conditioned with Maoist/Marxist  techniques', a 'mob' of 'communists' and 'terrorists' who will turn Thailand into a 'corporate fascist bloc' and have it rolled into ASEAN. 'Dupes' and 'stooges' led by Thaksin who is in turn led by Western Imperialists. It's important to point out at this juncture that the red in the Thai Flag represents the Thai people. This is why they have chosen to be a Red Movement, it is not a left wing movement, it encompasses all of the common people of Thailand.

Over the period of a year he continued along the same vein and added further incontestable facts to his writing. Thaksin was in the Council on Foreign Relations. The International Crisis Group has worked in Thailand, as has Freedom House and The National Endowment for Democracy. He has also continued with his nationalist ideological writing, praising the currently unelected government and Thai nationalists, while condemning all that they condemn with a fierce and violent passion; Highlighting some realities in Thailand such as the lax approach to enforcing Intellectual Property rights to essential drugs, which can not honestly be attributed to any political faction, and attributing them to the nationalists.

What follows is not so much a defence of the Red Movement, it's purpose is to provide a clearer and truer picture of the situation in Thailand. A response to the nationalist demagoguery of Tony Cartalucci's contrived and deceptive polemic.

Perhaps, we should start with some glaring omissions.

Anand Panyarachun

Anand Panyarachun is a former Thai Prime Minister, a regular speaker at anti-Thaksin and anti-Red rallies. He was also a member of the Carlyle Asia Advisory Board. He, however, remained on the board for three years more than Thaksin, who left in 2001. Anand only left when the board was disbanded in 2004. He supported the military coup which ousted Thaksin and was surprised that the international community condemned it. He has sat with George W. Bush  at the Global Leadership Foundation. Advised GE and AIG. Is a member of the CFR, UNICEF. The list goes on and on.

And so, the first questions arises; Who is more intimately linked with Western interests? Who is 'handled by Globalist Masters'? Why was Anand surprised by international condemnation of the coup?

Surin Pitsuwan

Surin Pitsuwan is another opponent of Thaksin and a 2006 coup supporter. “This, in a nutshell, is former Thai foreign minister Surin Pitsuwan's analysis of recent political upheavals that plagued his country. Speaking at an 'Asian Voices' seminar in Brussels, Belgium, the director of Thailand's Democratic Party believed that democracy did not die in the coup led by army general Sonthi Boonyaratklin, but was, in fact, saved just in time.”

“He is currently on the Advisory Board of the International Crisis Group (ICG); a member of the International Advisory Board of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York; He was nominated by the Royal Thai Government and endorsed by ASEAN Leaders to be ASEAN Secretary-General for year 2008- 2012.”

Mechai Viravaidya

Yet another high ranking opponent of Thaksin who supported the 2006 coup. The BBC quoted Senator Mechai Viravaidya as saying, "I'm delighted he's gone,"

He received money and an award from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for his work on family planning which saw one of the most rapid declines in fertility in modern history. He also received the UN population award and was appointed UNAIDS Ambassador. As head of Thailand's largest NGO, he is not alone in coming out in support of nationalists as the vast majority of Thai NGOs are funded by the Thai government and support their funders in their opposition of the Red Movement.

General Prem Tinsulanonda

“General Prem Tinsulanonda now serves as the Head of the Privy Council of the King of Thailand, Bhumibol Adulyadej.”

“Prem found himself named as a leading player in the Thailand political crisis of 2005-2006.  Before and during the mass protest of Thaksin's supporters, the UDD, Thaksin started mentioning the name of Prem publicly. The UDD leaders harshly blasted Prem for meddling in politics, calling him by using a term of 'ammatya' or 'aristocrat', as a threat to democracy since he has never been democratically elected.”

General Prem Tinsulanonda was Chief Advisor to the CP Group., the largest business conglomerate in Thailand who have a business relationship with the Bush family, until he left after investigations started into financial irregularities. The Carlyle Group announced an acquisition of interests in  CP  Group for US$175 Million, and General Prem remains embroiled in accusations of financial irregularities as businesses including the Carlyle Group's CP Group continued to make donations to his foundations.

Abhisit Vejjajiva

The current Prime Minister of Thailand, Abhisit Vejjajiva, was named 'one of 100 Global Leaders for Tomorrow by the World Economic Forum in 1992. In 1998 he became Knight Grand Cordon of the Most Noble Order of the Crown of Thailand and in 1999, Knight Grand Cordon (Special Class) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant. He became unelected Prime Minister of Thailand in 2008.

Above are a just a few influential Thai people with links to the same organisations as Thaksin, and more. Tony Cartalucci accuses these organisations of being foreign bodies interfering in Thailand's domestic politics via Thaksin and the Red Movement.

Again the questions arise; Who is more influenced by these foreign interests? Why does Tony only highlight Thaksin's links and not the links of the enormously powerful and influential opponents of Thaksin?

Omission of the IMF

Tony Cartalucci has stated that “Thailand's answer to the IMF, and globalization in general was profound in both implications as well as in its understanding of globalization's end game.” He credits anti-IMF policies to Thaksin's opposition and fails to mention that;

“Thailand was a severely compromised democracy by the time Thaksin won the 2001 election on an anti-IMF platform. In his first year in office, he inaugurated three heavy spending programmes that directly contradicted the IMF edicts: a moratorium on farmers' existing debt, along with facilitating new credit for them; medical treatment for all at only 30 baht (less than a dollar) per illness; and a one million baht fund for every district to invest as it saw fit.

These policies did not bring on the inflationary crisis that the IMF and conservative local economists expected. Instead they buoyed the economy and cemented Thaksin's massive support among the rural and urban poor.This was the 'good' side of Thaksin.

Thailand now has IMF debt increasing under Abhisit. Paying off this debt will inevitably result in less public spending and higher taxes. New taxes are also being introduced such as the Land Tax which is currently going through parliament.

The IMF has recently praised Thailand under Thaksin's opposition for giving public money to private companies.

Asia Times noted before the 2006 coup that “Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra was elected in 2001 on a strongly populist economic platform now widely referred to as Thaksinomics. Since that time, Thaksin's populist policies have succeeded in producing rapid economic growth. The only factor that could derail Thailand's economy is the remote risk of social instability.”

The question has to be asked; Were the IMF instrumental in creating this social instability that came about with the advent of the Yellow Shirts who preceded the Red Movement?

American Involvement?

It's interesting to note the events that led up to the final massacre at Ratchaprasong. RSO Randall Bennet from the US Embassy at an on-line meeting wrote,

 "If anything, the Army has been extremely patient and while being attacked by Red-Shirts with lethal weapons, has responded with rubber bullets to minimize casualties. The Army has not been the aggressor in this case."

On the Sunday morning US Assistant Secretary of State Kurt M. Campbell met Thai government officials and Red Movement leaders. He said that he strongly supported the government and urged the Reds to follow the government's recommendations.

By the afternoon the Thai government stated that it had a secretive new plan to disperse the Reds.

On the Monday morning Thai and US governments were distanced by a report published in Thai newspapers.

On the Thursday evening The New York Times interviewed Seh Deang where he was shot by a sniper after which a barrage of bullets entered the protest site killing and wounding many unarmed protesters and culminating in the end of the two month protest calling for fresh elections to replace an unelected government.

It's also interesting to note the presence of Americans, such as Michael Yon, at the protest telling the protesters to give up and go home.

“After some shooting started, this guy with weapons T-shirt and a firework stopped me and asked me to email him his photo. Interesting that part of his email address was "M203," which is a 40mm grenade launcher similar to M79. I emailed him a photo and asked him to go home.”

Who is Tony Cartalucci?

Tony Cartalucci doesn't reveal much about himself beyond being a Bangkok based writer. Further information on him can only be deduced from his writing or gleaned from the comments sections of his articles.

According to various comments, if they are to be believed, he has been a US Marine and conscientious objector;

“while I was in the Marine Corps - I never killed children, nor anyone not armed. Eventually, when I woke up, I refused orders and spent a month in solitary confinement in defense of my convictions. I am not proud of what I did as a Marine and I have dedicated my life to make reconciliation for what I've done.”

By looking at his writings and the reader's comments we can deduce that he is an American living in Thailand, supporting the Thai Nationalists.

Thailand's Nationalists

Thai Nationalists have completely dismissed Wikileaks as a whole. This may be due to the fact that  leaks purported to reveal that some nationalists planned on killing  dozens of their own followers in order to gain sympathetic support and demonise the Red Movement. Other leaks placed the spotlight on the nationalist leadership committing Lese Majeste.

The Thai Patriots Network have ex-communists within their ranks and have called for an uprising against elected governments as a whole along with an invasion of Cambodia to seize Angkor Wat.

“Elected politicians create more economic and social problems, and more threats to people’s freedom, … ‘We must stand up and be united. On the day that we mobilize our people, we have to come out in full force. Soldiers, police, and government officials should stand up for the good of the country. When the day comes, everyone must come out to make changes ourselves. We have to cooperate and help ourselves first, and angels and gods will help us.'

The current government is now paying communist rebels 500 million THB, fulfilling a promise given by General Prem Tinsulanonda.

Despite communists morphing into nationalists, government supporters morphing into government opposers and all of the constant change in Thai loyalties they still seem to remain loyal to  American money. Tony Cartalucci states that;

Abhisit's “government … has been steadily distancing itself from free-trade with the US, ignoring US calls to enforce “intellectual property,” and pursuing a more protectionist policy in regards to the West and its unraveling economy.” 

The hyperlink he provides is four years old and Thailand has always been lax on intellectual property rights regardless of whether leaders were elected, unelected, military juntas or even Thaksin himself. I wonder if Tony noticed that the article he linked to told of how Thaksin's unelected predecessors were working directly with the Clinton Foundation. Perhaps not. Be assured though, if Thaksin was in anyway involved with the foundation, it would have been labelled an untrustworthy New World Order foundation.

Regardless of whether or not the Clinton Foundation is good or evil, the fact remains that Tony's point is contrary to this more recent article highlighting closer free-trade links with the US;

“The recent road show to the US held by Thailand Board of Investment (BOI) showed the country received confirmation from giant American investors of their investment expansion projects, according to Minister of Industry Chaiwuti Bannawat who led the road show."

Article 112

Thai Nationalists naturally claim to love their royal family and illustrate their love by accusing people of Lese Majeste, and even sedition. Article 112 of the Thai Constitution protects royalty from criticism and insult. The Lese Majeste law could see those whose body language is deemed to be insulting to Thai Royalty imprisoned for decades. Cases of Lese Majeste have increased by 13,000% since the 2006 coup, and internet censorship and monitoring has also increased enormously most probably due to the movement against Article 112, which is currently growing exponentially.

Just a Lousy Journalist?

This article has only skimmed the surface of the situation in Thailand. It could continue indefinitely, but this writer presumes that enough evidence has been presented to readers. It concludes that Tony Cartalucci's writing on Thailand can not be trusted as objective descriptions of western interference in Thailand. They are, in fact, polemics against Thaksin and the Red Movement within which he presents carefully selected facts to suit a partisan argument against a section of the Thai people who have genuine grievances against their establishment. Those readers who believe in a New World Order hell bent on global corporate rule and depopulation may wish to continue research into such things as live Polio vaccines being administered by the current regime in a country that hasn't had a case of Polio for over 50 years. Or, perhaps the lax approach the regime has towards drinking water, including bottled water, being unfit for consumption due to the high levels of fluoride and other pollutants.

And remember what Roosevelt alluded to, human history has always seen the rich and powerful taking advantage of the poor and the weak and they killed whole swaths of people before the word eugenics was ever dreamt up.

In regards to Tony Cartalucci, who seems only to parrot what Thai members of the ICG, CFR and other globalist organisations say, it is suggested that if he is so concerned with foreign interference in Thailand, maybe he should consider stopping his own interference and stop his association fallacies.

I think you have missed the

I think you have missed the point of Tony's diatribes. He's no nationalist on Thailand. He's a kind of libertarian of the variety that sees a looming "Anglo-American unipolar world government." This stuff borders on the deranged, but gets a small audience amongst those who dally with libertarianism that shades into anarchism. That seems to drive him.

Hmm. A Libertarian who

Hmm. A Libertarian who supports an increasingly oppressive government and gives tacit consent to blocking the internet, preventing freedom of speech and massacring protesters asking for an elected government. Must be some new kind of Libertarian that hasn't entered the dictionary yet.

Read his webpage and see what

Read his webpage and see what you think of the description.

I have no doubt that Thaksin

I have no doubt that Thaksin is allied with any and every global capitalist entity which looks like it might provide him with a payday. So, too, are Korn, Suthep, Newin, all of the military and the rest of the present coalition. So Tony is making a distinction where there is no difference. Why?

The most immediate answer might be that Tony has allied himself with the one side against the other because the one side is in power now and the other is not.

The lumping of the red shirts with Thaksin is the standard royalist ploy. It is, of course, Thaksin who has aligned himself with the interests of the common people, to the extent that they don't conflict with his own of course, and not the other way around as the royalists never tire of trying to put across.

The only reason that Thaksin remains in relatively high regard among the ordinary people of Thailand is because no other politician or political party has taken any interest at all in their concerns. The Democrats et al. want to remain profoundly elitist... and be elected too.

If you read all of

If you read all of Cartalucci's work you will see he clearly mentions almost all of those people on that list. I wonder what else this Gerrard Winstanley is wrong about....

Links? Cut and pasted

Links? Cut and pasted comments on those people?

Actually, Gerrard, he makes a

Actually, Gerrard, he makes a better case against them than you do. You seem like you can't even read or write, or even think. Or even use the search box he has on his blog to make sure he hasn't written on the subjects you yourself claim he hasn't. And you think making your point on a US funded website like Prachatai makes your case stronger? Or weaker? lol ... Prachatai doesn't make it a secret they are pro-red shirt. So don't you think you've roamed a little far from being objective yourself? At least Cartalucii has his own blog and isn't submitting his articles to PAD. And judging from what he said about Surin Pitsuwan or Mechai, I don't think he really trusts or likes them.

Sounds like you are grinding a personal axe. Very unprofessional, very unprofessional to comment on your own article, and very unprofessional for Prachatai to publish nonsense like this without doing even basic fact checks to avoid making themselves look foolish (more foolish?).

Jimmy P? Really? Sounds like

Jimmy P? Really? Sounds like another, style like another?

I have to say making a blog

I have to say making a blog about another blogger is a bit mental don't you think?

The problem the red shirts have had all along is that they are run centrally by PTP and Thaksin, there is no denying this. They've had their chance to prove they were for real change and instead they attempted to replace one corrupt system with their own even more corrupt system.

You can't blame people for pointing that out. Instead of attacking them, maybe you should look at your own movement and work at fixing the things that are undeniably wrong with it. For one, stop letting Jatuporn, Weera, and Nattawut lead the movement. Purge anyone with any Thaksin connections.

Then focus on real problems and how to fix them, not political lip service. You don't have to wait for elections to start fixing problems at the village level. Instead of raising money for Thaksin, how about raising it to fix local problems?

Just some thoughts. The Reds and the Yellows have done a magnificent job at mucking up and dividing the country, surely no one will win, no matter who wins. I just look at all the money and resources that go into any given rally - that is at least one new school and a year's worth of operating costs easily.

Jimmy just look up for a

Jimmy just look up for a second.You see that "Donate to Prachatai" button ? OK, it's not for me to tell you how Prachatai stay afloat,that's their responsability,ask them.But if the "US funded Prachatai"are part of this global imperialism network as you seem to suggest,they have fooled me good and proper.But being more of a realist myself and having been to their humble offices,I can tell you that the US funding provides monies for visitors coffee,(or was that just the kind lady upstairs) and the T-shirts used to hoodwink us in this scam still as yet,have no radio transmittors hidden in their motif.I have followed the honest and charitable work of it's founder Jon Ungpakorn for a few years now,and I'm afraid to say that after almost 2 years worth of articles criticising Thaksin I am still unable to work out the coded mason speak in them.But I'm sure I'll crack the code soon.




They lied. Case closed.

(Thai) Land Destroyer

(Thai) Land Destroyer continues to write deceptively on Thailand. It has become clear that their is a high probability they are an American intelligence outfit based in Thailand, the hub of South east Asia, most probably funded and supported by elements of the current regime. A high proportion of their reports provide accurate information on geopolitics in other parts of the world. This gives them legitimacy and allows them to be published on popular and genuine news websites such as infowars.com and activistpost.com . It is with this legitimacy that they can then slip their anti-democratic propaganda against Thais who are calling for an end to coups and military rule.

In their latest attack, 'Warning Signs Over Old Siam ', written in response to 'Tony Cartalucci; The Nail in the Coffin?', they have been forced to address Article 112 and the massacre of last year. In it they defend Article 112 and state their belief that it is justified for a government to use it's military against it's own people. They were also forced to cover the numbers of people killed last year and, unsurprisingly, try to absolve the Thai military of any involvement in the deaths. They also continue their insults against the impoverished people of Northern Thailand.

You can keep up to date on developments at - http://tony-cartalucci-critic.blogspot.com/

So they are exposing their

So they are exposing their whole operation world wide for millions to read just to take down Thailand's democracy movement? And freedom house and national endowment for democracy and probably 5-6 of the biggest lobbying firms on earth are behind Thaksin and the UDD (Amsterdam represents UDD collectively as well) just as a ploy?

And American intelligence is funded by the Thai government?

And your meds are where?

Suck dick, NWO hack!

Suck dick, NWO hack!

"They lied,case closed" So

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