New photos of 6 Oct 1976 massacre emerge

25 new photos of the brutal crackdown on student activists at Thammasat University have emerged and have now been published on the internet, marking the 35th anniversary of the incident.

The annual event to commemorate the 14 Oct 1973 student uprising and the 6 Oct 1976 massacre is currently taking place at Thammasat University’s Tha Phra Chan campus, with activities including public forums, performances, art exhibits and concerts from 1-14 Oct.

Vipa Daomanee, one of the organizers of the event and coordinator of the committee to receive information and investigate the 6 Oct 1976 incident, said that the photos had been sent from an anonymous former vocational student.  The photos were taken on the morning of 6 Oct 1976 after Border Patrol Police forces had attacked and raided the university.  They are published online at http://2519.net and Truth Finding.

Vocational students were initially allies of the university students during and after the popular uprising on 14 Oct 1973, but later became estranged from them.  They were organized by members of the elite to become the Red Gaurs, one of the paramilitary anti-leftist organizations, including Navaphol and the Village Scouts, which took part in the attack on 6 Oct.

Part of the set of the photos shows a series of images of a handcuffed man being beaten and hanged under a tree. 

The man and other victims shown on the photos have yet to be identified, and if anybody can identify them, she asks them to please contact her.

According to Vipa, the man is not Wichitchai Amornkul, pictures of whose gruesome death had long been published and seen by the public.


Wichitchai Amornkul, 2nd year student at the Faculty of Political Science of Chulalongkorn University.  He was one of the student security guards on the night of 5 Oct and morning of 6 Oct at Thammasat University.

Despite the claim made by former PM’s Office Minister Sathit Wongnongtoey of the previous Democrat-led government that relatives of the victims of 6 Oct had been compensated, she said that so far no government, including the Thaksin government, has ever done so.

She said that after the coup in 2006, the so-called October people had been divided into the yellow and red camps, and this divisiveness had affected cooperation among them in organizing the annual commemoration events.

Source: 

http://www.prachatai.com/journal/2011/10/37218

...the photos had been sent

...the photos had been sent from an anonymous former vocational student. The photos were taken on the morning of 6 Oct 1976 after Border Patrol Police forces had attacked and raided the university.

Vocational students were initially allies of the university students during and after the popular uprising on 14 Oct 1973, but later became estranged from them. They were organized by members of the elite to become the Red Gaurs, one of the paramilitary anti-leftist organizations, including Navaphol and the Village Scouts, which took part in the attack on 6 Oct.

Hiring Thais to kill Thais. Those doing the hiring are True Thais®, of course. The True Thai® genotype can be proven by Herr Professor Doktor Tul Sitthisomwong, who holds the Chair in Eugenics at Chulalongkorn University.

Reminds one of other all-time infamous criminals as well...

“I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.”
Jay Gould, American Robber Baron

Ordinary, true humans, no matter their nationality, need to refuse to shed their brothers' and sisters' on oligarchs' orders.

There needs to be a pledge taken by all the Royal Thai Army soldiers and all other members of the Royal Thai armed forces : "I swear or affirm that I will never shed the blood of my fellow Thais, no matter who might order me to do so." In fact all Thais might take that pledge.

" "I swear or affirm that I

" "I swear or affirm that I will never shed the blood of my fellow Thais, no matter who might order me to do so." In fact all Thais might take that pledge."

They'd just take that as a nod to unleash on Lao and Cambodia. I don't think you're approaching it correctly. In any case, the argument made by these violent reactionaries is consistently their victims are "un-Thai®" - so pledging not to kill Thai will achieve nothing. Actually, what is usually going through their head when they shoot, burn, decapitate and hang their victims is that they are protecting Thailand and the True Thai® (which are the only Thai). The pledge needs to be something about simply thinking carefully before you act, instead of getting caught up in irrational sentiment...

"There needs to be a pledge

"There needs to be a pledge taken by all the Royal Thai Army soldiers and all other members of the Royal Thai armed forces : "I swear or affirm that I will never shed the blood of my fellow Thais, no matter who might order me to do so." "

Not necessary, as was suggested elsewhere, all that would be needed to stop the majority of nonsense from the military is:

1. A law requiring every Thai (including the guy in the big house) to defend the constitution,

2. A proper constitution with civilised (ie not 3rd world) human rights provisions.

3. A government with the balls to enforce the law at 1).

Won't happen with the current level of psychological development in Thailand though, Thais are defined by the questions of: "What can I cheat at?" and "how can I cheat at it?" That has to change first. Its an education thing as well as a psychological development thing and Thais are quite a long way back in the queue for both. By choice.

"1. A law requiring every

"1. A law requiring every Thai (including the guy in the big house) to defend the constitution,"

They had that in the 1997 Constitution. It proved ineffective. The problem was something along the lines with people afraid of being tortured, shot, forced into signing false confesions and then humiliated on TV, imprisoned, so on. You know, the usual deterants the military uses to convince the people it is acting on their best interests.

"Thais are defined by the questions of: "What can I cheat at?" and "how can I cheat at it?" "

That's not a universal truth, you know, and it's a pretty racist thing to say. It's only some of the upper class that are prone to this attitude. You know, the "good men" who cheat for the "benefit" of the Thai people.

"They had that in the 1997

"They had that in the 1997 Constitution. It proved ineffective. The problem was something along the lines with people afraid of being tortured, shot, forced into signing false confesions and then humiliated on TV, imprisoned, so on. You know, the usual deterants the military uses to convince the people it is acting on their best interests."

Thats because the other 2 requirements were not in place.

"That's not a universal truth, you know, and it's a pretty racist thing to say. It's only some of the upper class that are prone to this attitude. You know, the "good men" who cheat for the "benefit" of the Thai people."

'Racist' is typically a term used to generate an emotional, irrational response rather than a reasoned response. Typically, the irrational accusation is used when a rational explanation is not available, so I'm sure Simon has taken no offence at your use of it. Never-the-less, your experiences do appear to differ, as apparently, do your observations and conclusions.

What you say is partly true, but probably not for the reasons you suggest. There are no universal truths in regard to people, but there certainly are national characteristics, deriving mainly from the cultural inheritance and the educational systems in place. Cheating in Thailand is endemic and permeates all strata of society, and seems to stem from 2 main causes:

1. The need to appear to be something the Thai is not (successful diligent, intelligent etc etc - if in doubt consult the book of Thai high-achievers who did not become high-achievers through corruption and exploitation - check the chap[ter on high academic achievers for example...).
2. The lack of education in ethics, principles and morals.

The latter of course, is propagated by the (typically Sino-Thai) wealthy classes who have done very nicely thankyou without being burdened by principles, so they can be predicted to resist the introduction of more westernised approaches for as long as possible. Many folk, including me, believe that this is a cancer spread by the Chinese culture throughout SE Asia, but the evidence and the reasoning is too long-winded for here.

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/continued: During many years

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During many years of living in Thailand, both in Bangkok among some very wealthy people, and in Isarn, among some poor Laos-Thai (arguably the original and only genuine Thais), I have seen cheating and thieving among Thais in all strata of society. Whereas the same is true of peoples in the others of the 3 continents I have lived in myself , in Thailand it is much more prevalent, and much more accepted (the legendary Thai laziness).

It is against the background of dishonesty, corruption, nepotism and exploitation which so obviously characterises the [...] that we must appraise Thailand and Thais. The above article shows what happens when 'Thai-style' rules apply, and the conditions which resulted in 1976 are still in place, as we saw last year and as we shall doubtless see again before too long. As I saw written elsewhere, Thailand is the house that Jack built and Jack likes it just fine because it has served Jack very well, if not the people whom Jack claims to serve.

So all-in-all, I agree with most of what Simon said, so perhaps we must agree to differ, but hey, come on, Thais are not cheats and thieves? Where have you been living while in Thailand and what were you doing when you should have been watching?

"'Racist' is typically a term

"'Racist' is typically a term used to generate an emotional, irrational response rather than a reasoned response."

Typically as in always? My, arn't you sure of yourself.

If I were to say "Americans are fat" would that be racist or not? As in, a negative steriotype against an entire population? It might even be "grounded in fact" in that America has the largest population of obese per capita on the planet. It doesn't mean all Americans are fat, and since the steriotype was generally negative, it becomes a slur (against a race - not genetic, just the national), racist.

So when you steriotype all Thai people in a negative way when it is no more true than saying "all Americans are fat" how is it not racist? If I didn't know any better, I'd dare say it was you who has the "emotional response" toward Thai on some level, since you feel the need to insult them absent of reason or merit.

/cont "There are no universal

/cont

"There are no universal truths in regard to people, but there certainly are national characteristics,"

Yes, a large portion of the country may have negative traits. You should say "most Thai" instead of simply lumping the good in with the bad just because you're too lazy to type an extra word.

"Many folk, including me, believe that this is a cancer spread by the Chinese culture throughout SE Asia,"

I'm not sure describing Chinese culture as "cancer" will help your arguement against you being racist...

"So all-in-all, I agree with most of what Simon said, so perhaps we must agree to differ, but hey, come on, Thais are not cheats and thieves? Where have you been living while in Thailand and what were you doing when you should have been watching?"

I havn't seen anyone in common society cheating or thieving. I know there is a lot of corruption in upper class Bangkok. I know a lot of Thai people have a poor nature and tend to lie. There is a lot of cheating going on toward foreigners, such as charging them stupid big prices for things, but that only happens in the tourist areas where they are accustomed to milking stupid tourists, not in the most of Thailand.

Whatever inherit nature you're talking about, it is not so wide spread. I think you have skewered your vision somehow. I also don't see what cheating has to do with the article above. You're not "cheating" when you beat someone and then burn them alive. That's called "barbarism", not "cheating". And the reason for that barbarism has nothing to do with cheating, laziness or Chinese culture. It's just the result of brain washing and propaganda. They were a mob who was mobilized for use by the elite. They have little to do with the common people at all, but more so represent the nature of greed and selfishmen that infects all "good men" in Thai society. If anyone ever tries to push that propaganda on you, just punch them in the face and tell them to fuck off. But I don't see why all Thai are responsible and have a kin nature.

"That is why we must bring to

"That is why we must bring to justice the generals and politicians who killed unarmed Red-shirts in Bangkok last year.Otherwise we can never have democracy,human rights or justice in Thailand." ....and we WILL.

That quote about hiring half

That quote about hiring half the poor to kill the other half was sadly transformed in Thailand to "arrange" for the "good half" to keep the "bad half" in its place.
And stay there, stay in prison, or die. See, there are choices!

@SomeRandom: "Typically as in

@SomeRandom:

"Typically as in always?

No, typically as in typically. "informal showing the characteristics expected of or popularly associated with a particular person, situation, or thing: ". As per the dictionary.

"My, arn't you sure of yourself."

only when my poisition is unassailable.

"I'm not sure describing Chinese culture as "cancer" will help your arguement against you being racist..."

I'm not sure you failing to read what I said properly will do your credibility much good. I did not call the Chinese culture a cancer, I called "The lack of education in ethics, principles and morals." a cancer, though surely I shouldn't really have to explain something that was clearly and concisely laid out in the first place?

"I haven't seen anyone in common society cheating or thieving."

Don't be silly, you never saw a Thai motorcyclist cheat the traffic laws? Go through a red light? Not wearing a crash hat? You never got asked for a bribe from a traffic cop? Corruption and thievery start with the small things and when it is clear they will get away with the small things, they try it on with bigger things. I really shouldn't have to be explaining this to a grown-up.

" I know there is a lot of corruption in upper class Bangkok. I know a lot of Thai people have a poor nature and tend to lie. There is a lot of cheating going on toward foreigners, such as charging them stupid big prices for things, but that only happens in the tourist areas where they are accustomed to milking stupid tourists, not in the most of Thailand."

Which really only goes to prove the point you say I should not have made - presumably because it is politically incorrect even though true. I am reminded of myself as a young man hanging wallpaper. I was convinced I could do it, so I kept doing it, and the wallpaper kept peeling off. Eventually I decided there were some things I was not good at and hanging wallpaper was one of them, so I stopped.

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/continued "You're not

/continued

"You're not "cheating" when you beat someone and then burn them alive. "

Off course you are, you are cheating someone out of their human rights and you are cheating democracy.

Then you just go crazy:

"And the reason for that barbarism has nothing to do with cheating, laziness or Chinese culture. It's just the result of brain washing and propaganda."

No it isn't, it is the result of "The lack of education in ethics, principles and morals." as I said in the first place, and with which you disagreed. .

Anyway, that's quite enough from me on this, rebuttals that cannot rise above a tedious political correctness are just boring.

"No, typically as in

"No, typically as in typically. As per the dictionary."

Always, then? Just how many Thai are lacking these moral characteristics you speak of? Typically all of them?

"only when my poisition is unassailable."

The PAD say the same thing.

"I did not call the Chinese culture a cancer, I called "The lack of education in ethics, principles and morals." a cancer"

A cancer that is spread through Chinese culture. You said it clear enough, I think. It's what you said.

"you never saw a Thai motorcyclist cheat the traffic laws? Go through a red light? Not wearing a crash hat? You never got asked for a bribe from a traffic cop?"

Yes, but I also run reds in Bangkok on my bike. I also don't wear a helmet in the rural area I live in now. I paid the bribes when asked for them. I'm not Thai. These things are not uniquely Thai characteristics.

"Which really only goes to prove the point you say I should not have made - presumably because it is politically incorrect even though true."

So you're reaffirming your position that all Thai have bad moral character? Period?

"Off course you are, you are

"Off course you are, you are cheating someone out of their human rights and you are cheating democracy."

But those things never existed in Thailand in the first place. You said it yourself. And the point of the demonstration was to point out they did not exist. How can you cheat someone out of something they did not have? Besides, saying it is cheating is just a play on words. It was just manslaughter, mob violence, so on. It was not cheating.

"No it isn't, it is the result of "The lack of education in ethics, principles and morals." as I said in the first place, and with which you disagreed"

It's the same thing. In place of the education on ethics, principles and morals, they have brainwashing and propaganda in their schools and on media. I never disagreed with that. I was just saying it in a more clever way. You see, the "lack of" something is never responsible for anything because it's not there. It was the irrational nationalist and royalist sentiment that replaced the morals and ethics that drove these people to do what they did, not some absentee philosophy on human rights.

"among some poor Laos-Thai (arguably the original and only genuine Thais)"

Something that I forgot to reply on. This one is classic. It's like a mirror image of PAD philosophy. First, the royalists tried to claim that the true Thai in Bangkok were the PAD, rising up against tyranny to defend the country. Now you come along and say the Reds are the true Thai in Isaarn. LOL
Do you even know what Thai is? Or are you just as arrogant as the PAD? Thai is a nationality. Not a genetic race. In the North and Bangkok, people are half Chinese. In Isarn, they are half Khmer. In the south, they are half Indian. There are also many other races floating about. Now there are many half white Thai. But they are still 100% Thai. Regardless of what racist people would tell you. A half white person is no less Thai than a Khmer or a half Chinese or Indian. Thai is Thai. Those who were born on this land, who were raised here, who are legally Thai - they are all 100% Thai. There is no such thing as "half Thai" or "un-Thai" - that is the sort of racism that caused the massacre above in the first place. There is only Thai or not Thai - you either have the papers and claim or you don't.

I think it's time to stop your stupid racism...
You clearly have an underlying grudge against all Thai people. Perhaps this site is on the wrong topic for you?